We here at TPOL generally like Whoopi Goldberg … as an actress when she played Guinan on Star Trek: The Next Generation.
That was a long time ago. But the good will from her appearances has long since evaporated, except for what she gets that we provide to any human being. Regardless of their faults. Including what we are tempted to say one of Goldberg’s greater ones: an inability to understand simple English declarative statements, combined with a firm belief that her political enemies are all monsters.
So we are placed in a quandry: for once we agree with her.
Whoopi Goldberg is recently reported as saying, ‘I’m not gonna let Secretary Kennedy tell me what vaccines to take.”
Amen… we here at TPOL are totally agreement with Whoopi Goldberg. The government should not be telling us what we can put into our bodies.
But… they do. Constantly. As a correspondent recently noted: “Public health [Stateside and in much of the world] has become perverted. They attempt to justify their actions (demands) using what is called “utilitarian logic.” This is the idea that the government has the right to enforce the greatest good for the greatest number by insisting that you receive various drugs, especially injectable products. They reject anything but lip service to the idea of fully informed consent.
And that, we submit, is wrong. Dead wrong. So we have to agree with Whoopi, not just about RFK Jr. but about any government official.
But that is not what RFK Jr, his boss The Donald, and the entire MAHA movement is doing. They are not denying people access to vaccines. (This seems to be what she believes to be the case.) What they are doing in this particular situation is strongly insisting that people – everyday people like you and me – have a God-given right of self-determination.
That includes providing the information to patients by their physicians and other medical staff. Should we not have a right to have a physician-patient relationship focused first and foremost on us and our needs, not on some government mandate? Not just the idea of liberty but of basic human decency means allowing a patient (or their parents) to make informed decisions about whether or not to accept any medical product or any medical procedure. Especially when it is something irreversible? We are not some sort of National Socialist “volk” in which individuals are just cogs in the machine. “We the People” are all individuals with liberty.
So we can tell Whoopi – YES, WE ARE VIOLENTLY IN AGREEMENT!
(Disgusting as that is…)
But regarding the paranoid and hate-driven attitude of Goldberg and others against RFK Jr and The Donald, in this case she’s got it wrong: DHHS’s boss is not telling you or me what to take. He and his boss (at least in this case) are saying the opposite: governments (international, national, State, tribal or local) have no power, have no right, to tell us what we must take. Whether it is an injection, applied to our skin, inhaled, or ingested.
And for that matter, tell us what we cannot inject, rub on, inhale, or ingest.
Closely related to this:
The U.S. Supreme Court ruled on December 8 that New York state can’t punish Amish families for refusing to violate their religious beliefs when they decline to let their school inject vaccines into their children.
Amish parents and three Amish community schools had been slapped with fines ranging from $20,000 to $52,000 for refusing to comply with New York’s 2019 law, which eliminated religious exemptions to school vaccine mandates enacted after a measles outbreak. NY officials claimed public health required forcing every child to be vaccinated, even those whose parents had sincere religious objections.
Attorney Sujata Gibson called the Supreme Court’s action “checkmate” for states that refuse to accept religious exemptions. “It means we’re almost certainly getting the religious exemption back, not only in New York, but across the country,” Gibson said.
New York lawmakers referred to religious beliefs as “trash,” “fake,” and “heresy” during legislative debates on eliminating the exemption. NY Gov. Kathy Hochul told a congregation that people with religious objections to vaccination “are not listening to God” and that their concerns are “not truth.”
This decision is expected to help people in other states that stripped citizens of religious exemptions for their own and their children’s vaccinations. That includes some we would expect: New York, California, Maine, and Connecticut. However, surprisingly, Mississippi and West Virginia also currently deny religious exemptions to school vaccine requirements. Clearly, this is a little bit of bipartisan tyranny and religious denial.
About TPOL Nathan
Follower of Christ Jesus (a christian), Pahasapan (resident of the Black Hills), Westerner, Lover of Liberty, Free-Market Anarchist, Engineer, Army Officer, Husband, Father, Historian, Writer, Evangelist. Successor to Lady Susan (Mama Liberty) at TPOL.
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We here at TPOL generally like Whoopi Goldberg … as an actress when she played Guinan on Star Trek: The Next Generation.
That was a long time ago. But the good will from her appearances has long since evaporated, except for what she gets that we provide to any human being. Regardless of their faults. Including what we are tempted to say one of Goldberg’s greater ones: an inability to understand simple English declarative statements, combined with a firm belief that her political enemies are all monsters.
So we are placed in a quandry: for once we agree with her.
Whoopi Goldberg is recently reported as saying, ‘I’m not gonna let Secretary Kennedy tell me what vaccines to take.”
Amen… we here at TPOL are totally agreement with Whoopi Goldberg. The government should not be telling us what we can put into our bodies.
But… they do. Constantly. As a correspondent recently noted: “Public health [Stateside and in much of the world] has become perverted. They attempt to justify their actions (demands) using what is called “utilitarian logic.” This is the idea that the government has the right to enforce the greatest good for the greatest number by insisting that you receive various drugs, especially injectable products. They reject anything but lip service to the idea of fully informed consent.
And that, we submit, is wrong. Dead wrong. So we have to agree with Whoopi, not just about RFK Jr. but about any government official.
But that is not what RFK Jr, his boss The Donald, and the entire MAHA movement is doing. They are not denying people access to vaccines. (This seems to be what she believes to be the case.) What they are doing in this particular situation is strongly insisting that people – everyday people like you and me – have a God-given right of self-determination.
That includes providing the information to patients by their physicians and other medical staff. Should we not have a right to have a physician-patient relationship focused first and foremost on us and our needs, not on some government mandate? Not just the idea of liberty but of basic human decency means allowing a patient (or their parents) to make informed decisions about whether or not to accept any medical product or any medical procedure. Especially when it is something irreversible? We are not some sort of National Socialist “volk” in which individuals are just cogs in the machine. “We the People” are all individuals with liberty.
So we can tell Whoopi – YES, WE ARE VIOLENTLY IN AGREEMENT!
(Disgusting as that is…)
But regarding the paranoid and hate-driven attitude of Goldberg and others against RFK Jr and The Donald, in this case she’s got it wrong: DHHS’s boss is not telling you or me what to take. He and his boss (at least in this case) are saying the opposite: governments (international, national, State, tribal or local) have no power, have no right, to tell us what we must take. Whether it is an injection, applied to our skin, inhaled, or ingested.
And for that matter, tell us what we cannot inject, rub on, inhale, or ingest.
Closely related to this:
The U.S. Supreme Court ruled on December 8 that New York state can’t punish Amish families for refusing to violate their religious beliefs when they decline to let their school inject vaccines into their children.
Amish parents and three Amish community schools had been slapped with fines ranging from $20,000 to $52,000 for refusing to comply with New York’s 2019 law, which eliminated religious exemptions to school vaccine mandates enacted after a measles outbreak. NY officials claimed public health required forcing every child to be vaccinated, even those whose parents had sincere religious objections.
Attorney Sujata Gibson called the Supreme Court’s action “checkmate” for states that refuse to accept religious exemptions. “It means we’re almost certainly getting the religious exemption back, not only in New York, but across the country,” Gibson said.
New York lawmakers referred to religious beliefs as “trash,” “fake,” and “heresy” during legislative debates on eliminating the exemption. NY Gov. Kathy Hochul told a congregation that people with religious objections to vaccination “are not listening to God” and that their concerns are “not truth.”
This decision is expected to help people in other states that stripped citizens of religious exemptions for their own and their children’s vaccinations. That includes some we would expect: New York, California, Maine, and Connecticut. However, surprisingly, Mississippi and West Virginia also currently deny religious exemptions to school vaccine requirements. Clearly, this is a little bit of bipartisan tyranny and religious denial.
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About TPOL Nathan
Follower of Christ Jesus (a christian), Pahasapan (resident of the Black Hills), Westerner, Lover of Liberty, Free-Market Anarchist, Engineer, Army Officer, Husband, Father, Historian, Writer, Evangelist. Successor to Lady Susan (Mama Liberty) at TPOL.