By Nathan Barton
Good afternoon. Ebola and Enterovirus D68 may not be as catching as so many fear, but madness is highly contagious. Among other things, on Monday I’ve already received a full week’s dose of panicmongering about how millions will die and NASA (or NSA or CDC or the local alcohol control board (ABC)) have published findings that PROVE society, the economy, and all we know and love (or hate) is doomed within months. Bleh!
Ebola Madness:
This Is How Ebola and ISIS Could Kill Us All. Irrational fears encourage policies that are more dangerous than the threats they are supposed to defuse.
Mama’s Note: Well said. Even though the author is much too trusting of government, of course.
Nathan: Even the “conservatives” seem to be trusting government more than usual when it comes to things like banning flights, appointing “czars” and other actions. Government is incompetent at everything it does, including tyranny, torture, and killing; why do they think it would do any better on something like this?
An example of government and medical bureaucracy in action is found in the tale of the first nurse to get Ebola in Dallas: it is a horrifying timeline but what else should we expect? A medical commentator (other than Mama Liberty) points out that the second nurse failed to carry out HER personal responsibility in her little trek to and from Cleveland, and again, trusted government. But again, that sick and failed theme of trusting government, including CDC, to do the right thing is present. Public health agencies demonstrate constantly their ability to help control even those most difficult of diseases to pass from one person to another: the sexually-transmitted diseases. Is a disease which only requires fairly minimal contact to spread, in poor hygiene and sanitation conditions, something that the average health bureaucrat is able to deal with? Or medical personnel who have this naive trust in government?
Meanwhile, the waves of POSSIBLE contagion continue to spread like the disturbed water around a dropped rock. Frontier Airlines has (at least tried to) notify the 800 passengers who flew on the aircraft Nurse #2 rode back from Ohio. And she was in contact – degree unknown – supposedly only with 12 people in Ohio. How many really exposed? Even if only one in a hundred, we see eight potential exposures. Meanwhile, in panic, Frontier is ripping out the seats and carpets in the aircraft, in Denver, potentially exposing dozens of workers and craftsmen and probably solid waste workers and more. The panic is the killer, NOT the smoke or flame, in a theater fire. Is this going to be any different?
Mama’s Note: The thing to remember is that, so far, only one person has died from Ebola in the US, and he came from Liberia. None of the people in the US, identified as having been exposed, even contaminated – not even those few who were supposedly actually infected have died. All of those who have undergone the 21 day isolation period are healthy. The nurse in Spain has recovered, if she was actually infected. Plenty of smoke, for sure, but so far no flame at all.
Just in on Monday, none of the 48 contacts of the first man to die of Ebola on American soil have developed the disease and the 21-day “contagious period” is up, so the isolation period is ending. As Mama Liberty notes, Now maybe the hysteria can start to unwind. If anyone was going to be infected by casual contact, these would have all been sick by now. I agree that this is a good sign, but it seems as if there are a couple of things to keep in mind: 1. How casual was the contact? There is a big difference between the homeless guy that got carried by the ambulance, and the fiancee. 2. We know that at least 2 people HAVE gotten Ebola from contact (supposedly under very controlled conditions) from this now deceased victim: 2 out of 50+/- is still 4%. 3. Supposedly (according to WHO) 5% of Ebola sick take LONGER than 21 days to develop the illness, as long as 42 days. Again, pretty small, but… Even with those odds, I don’t think the panic will slow much. As we’ve pointed out, this isn’t as easy to pass on as the typical flu or cold, but it does spread.
As a reminder of how stupid government is, two guys had their bagpipes seized when they traveled from the States through Canada on their way back to the States to fly from Boston to the UK for an event, because of a new law about trafficking ivory. As the writer points out, this is in contrast to refusing any travel restrictions from disease-ridden nations.
Other madness: Politics 2014:
Hickenlooper has constantly demonstrated his lust for personal power and for the further Tranzi transformation of Colorado, but this seems to be a bit over the top even for him. Or is it? Apparently Hickenlooper has stated in a public (CNN) interview that he “could” between election day and when he leaves office (assuming he is not reelected) pardon a man who killed 4 people at a Chuck E. Cheese in Aurora twenty-one years ago (who has been given the death sentence and whom both Hickenlooper and his Dem predecessor have constantly delayed carrying out). Several commentators call this a “re-elect me or I’ll let a murderer go” campaign ploy, and I can see their point, but it seems just as likely that this governor is just so welded (or wedded) to his political stands that he will do anything to push them. The real question is just how stupid Colorado voters will be.
A GOP type politician in Missouri recently posted this on Facebook: “I have a question for all my friends who have served or are currently serving in our military … having not put on a uniform nor taken any type military oath, there has to be something that I am just not aware of. But I cannot and do not understand why no action is being taken against our domestic enemy. I know he is supposedly the commander in chief, but the Constitution gives you the authority. What am I missing? Thank you for your bravery and may God keep you safe.” At least some Democrats are claiming that this is a threat against the Fuehrer, a call for someone in the military to assassinate the squatter at 1600 PA.
Biden’s son was discharged from Navy after testing positive for cocaine “I deeply regret … that my actions led to my administrative discharge,” said Hunter Biden, a reservist. Get that: this 44-year-old man is a real piece of filth, just like his father. Wonder if Uncle Joe could pass a drug test? He surely can’t keep his tongue under control, for anything.
See the above picture. In Oklahoma, a high school student posted a photo of a pitiful lunch served in her school to comply with the idiotic nanny-state USDA regulations for “healthy” food and school meals promoted by that thug, the First Consort. The school superintendent and the state “deputy superintendent for nutrition” both state that they agree with the student, but REFUSE to do anything about it. After all, they must submit to the FedGov and the unelected co-dictator calling the shots – and dancing with turnips. Government-ruined, theft-funded schools no longer just starve the children intellectually and morally, but physically. Get the children OUT, people, please. And why not file charges of neglect against everyone from the cook up to the school board and state agencies, and include that clothes horse as a conspirator?
Of course, why WHY do people believe her about “healthy food?” After all, we know that the man she is married to is a pathological liar. Consider this reminder: his claim that Obamacare has helped produce a ‘$1,800 tax cut’ “If we hadn’t taken this on, and [health insurance] premiums had kept growing at the rate they did in the last decade, the average premium for family coverage today would be $1,800 higher than they are. Now, most people don’t notice it, but that’s $1,800 you don’t have to pay out of your pocket or see vanish from your paycheck. That’s like a $1,800 tax cut.”
With lies like this, maybe the nation’s school children are better off starving to death now instead of having to live through the evil times caused by these two people and their controllers and supporters. Is it any wonder that someone can make a straight-faced argument that the squatter at 1600 PA is actually a secret conservative plant, a ringer?
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Libertarian Commentary on the News, #14-42B: Ebola and other madness
By Nathan Barton
Good afternoon. Ebola and Enterovirus D68 may not be as catching as so many fear, but madness is highly contagious. Among other things, on Monday I’ve already received a full week’s dose of panicmongering about how millions will die and NASA (or NSA or CDC or the local alcohol control board (ABC)) have published findings that PROVE society, the economy, and all we know and love (or hate) is doomed within months. Bleh!
Ebola Madness:
This Is How Ebola and ISIS Could Kill Us All. Irrational fears encourage policies that are more dangerous than the threats they are supposed to defuse.
Mama’s Note: Well said. Even though the author is much too trusting of government, of course.
Nathan: Even the “conservatives” seem to be trusting government more than usual when it comes to things like banning flights, appointing “czars” and other actions. Government is incompetent at everything it does, including tyranny, torture, and killing; why do they think it would do any better on something like this?
An example of government and medical bureaucracy in action is found in the tale of the first nurse to get Ebola in Dallas: it is a horrifying timeline but what else should we expect? A medical commentator (other than Mama Liberty) points out that the second nurse failed to carry out HER personal responsibility in her little trek to and from Cleveland, and again, trusted government. But again, that sick and failed theme of trusting government, including CDC, to do the right thing is present. Public health agencies demonstrate constantly their ability to help control even those most difficult of diseases to pass from one person to another: the sexually-transmitted diseases. Is a disease which only requires fairly minimal contact to spread, in poor hygiene and sanitation conditions, something that the average health bureaucrat is able to deal with? Or medical personnel who have this naive trust in government?
Meanwhile, the waves of POSSIBLE contagion continue to spread like the disturbed water around a dropped rock. Frontier Airlines has (at least tried to) notify the 800 passengers who flew on the aircraft Nurse #2 rode back from Ohio. And she was in contact – degree unknown – supposedly only with 12 people in Ohio. How many really exposed? Even if only one in a hundred, we see eight potential exposures. Meanwhile, in panic, Frontier is ripping out the seats and carpets in the aircraft, in Denver, potentially exposing dozens of workers and craftsmen and probably solid waste workers and more. The panic is the killer, NOT the smoke or flame, in a theater fire. Is this going to be any different?
Mama’s Note: The thing to remember is that, so far, only one person has died from Ebola in the US, and he came from Liberia. None of the people in the US, identified as having been exposed, even contaminated – not even those few who were supposedly actually infected have died. All of those who have undergone the 21 day isolation period are healthy. The nurse in Spain has recovered, if she was actually infected. Plenty of smoke, for sure, but so far no flame at all.
Just in on Monday, none of the 48 contacts of the first man to die of Ebola on American soil have developed the disease and the 21-day “contagious period” is up, so the isolation period is ending. As Mama Liberty notes, Now maybe the hysteria can start to unwind. If anyone was going to be infected by casual contact, these would have all been sick by now. I agree that this is a good sign, but it seems as if there are a couple of things to keep in mind: 1. How casual was the contact? There is a big difference between the homeless guy that got carried by the ambulance, and the fiancee. 2. We know that at least 2 people HAVE gotten Ebola from contact (supposedly under very controlled conditions) from this now deceased victim: 2 out of 50+/- is still 4%. 3. Supposedly (according to WHO) 5% of Ebola sick take LONGER than 21 days to develop the illness, as long as 42 days. Again, pretty small, but… Even with those odds, I don’t think the panic will slow much. As we’ve pointed out, this isn’t as easy to pass on as the typical flu or cold, but it does spread.
As a reminder of how stupid government is, two guys had their bagpipes seized when they traveled from the States through Canada on their way back to the States to fly from Boston to the UK for an event, because of a new law about trafficking ivory. As the writer points out, this is in contrast to refusing any travel restrictions from disease-ridden nations.
Other madness: Politics 2014:
Hickenlooper has constantly demonstrated his lust for personal power and for the further Tranzi transformation of Colorado, but this seems to be a bit over the top even for him. Or is it? Apparently Hickenlooper has stated in a public (CNN) interview that he “could” between election day and when he leaves office (assuming he is not reelected) pardon a man who killed 4 people at a Chuck E. Cheese in Aurora twenty-one years ago (who has been given the death sentence and whom both Hickenlooper and his Dem predecessor have constantly delayed carrying out). Several commentators call this a “re-elect me or I’ll let a murderer go” campaign ploy, and I can see their point, but it seems just as likely that this governor is just so welded (or wedded) to his political stands that he will do anything to push them. The real question is just how stupid Colorado voters will be.
A GOP type politician in Missouri recently posted this on Facebook: “I have a question for all my friends who have served or are currently serving in our military … having not put on a uniform nor taken any type military oath, there has to be something that I am just not aware of. But I cannot and do not understand why no action is being taken against our domestic enemy. I know he is supposedly the commander in chief, but the Constitution gives you the authority. What am I missing? Thank you for your bravery and may God keep you safe.” At least some Democrats are claiming that this is a threat against the Fuehrer, a call for someone in the military to assassinate the squatter at 1600 PA.
Biden’s son was discharged from Navy after testing positive for cocaine “I deeply regret … that my actions led to my administrative discharge,” said Hunter Biden, a reservist. Get that: this 44-year-old man is a real piece of filth, just like his father. Wonder if Uncle Joe could pass a drug test? He surely can’t keep his tongue under control, for anything.
See the above picture. In Oklahoma, a high school student posted a photo of a pitiful lunch served in her school to comply with the idiotic nanny-state USDA regulations for “healthy” food and school meals promoted by that thug, the First Consort. The school superintendent and the state “deputy superintendent for nutrition” both state that they agree with the student, but REFUSE to do anything about it. After all, they must submit to the FedGov and the unelected co-dictator calling the shots – and dancing with turnips. Government-ruined, theft-funded schools no longer just starve the children intellectually and morally, but physically. Get the children OUT, people, please. And why not file charges of neglect against everyone from the cook up to the school board and state agencies, and include that clothes horse as a conspirator?
Of course, why WHY do people believe her about “healthy food?” After all, we know that the man she is married to is a pathological liar. Consider this reminder: his claim that Obamacare has helped produce a ‘$1,800 tax cut’ “If we hadn’t taken this on, and [health insurance] premiums had kept growing at the rate they did in the last decade, the average premium for family coverage today would be $1,800 higher than they are. Now, most people don’t notice it, but that’s $1,800 you don’t have to pay out of your pocket or see vanish from your paycheck. That’s like a $1,800 tax cut.”
With lies like this, maybe the nation’s school children are better off starving to death now instead of having to live through the evil times caused by these two people and their controllers and supporters. Is it any wonder that someone can make a straight-faced argument that the squatter at 1600 PA is actually a secret conservative plant, a ringer?
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Follower of Christ Jesus (a christian), Pahasapan (resident of the Black Hills), Westerner, Lover of Liberty, Free-Market Anarchist, Engineer, Army Officer, Husband, Father, Historian, Writer, Evangelist. Successor to Lady Susan (Mama Liberty) at TPOL.