By Nathan Barton
Just hours after posting my commentary on the Nazgul denying hearing cases in Florida (on open carry) and Maryland (prohibiting ownership of “assault weapons”), the State of Hawai’i demonstrated yet another massive threat to the freedom of its own people.

A cascade of letters was apparently sent to every person (via their local “Officer Friendly” jack-booted thug, like the one above from Honolulu PD). who is on both the state’s register of medical marijuana users AND the state’s register of gun-buyers. The State is telling those people that they have 30 days to VOLUNTARILY surrender (or transfer) their firearms, ammunition, and permit.
There is no explanation of what will happen if they do not “volunteer” to do so. Nor what will happen if the “transfer” is to another person in their household or family who is NOT on the MMJ list. Of course, such a transfer requires that the person gaining the weapon must be permitted (or have a registration) for that weapon. According to this website it requires at least fourteen days to get the permit. In the case of the above letter, dated the 13th of November, they have only until the 14th of December to transfer the weapon, which means that they better have gotten their application in by today, or they will have no way to transfer it. (Except to a holder of a long-arm permit, or a firearms dealer).
I’ve never been to Hawai’i and, frankly, had little desire to go even before this. In fact, were I willing to risk my “life, fortune, and sacred honor” to go assist American victims of tyranny, I probably now have a bit more desire to go.
Unfortunately, the majority of Hawai’ians have no one but themselves to blame for this. They are the ones who elected the officials who created this law, who failed to remove them from office (by impeachment or other means) when they did create this law, and who apparently (based on the lack of significant outcry in the last two weeks) are not that concerned about it.
This action is based on the statement by the Feds (BATFE) back in September 2011 that medical marijuana users are criminals, never mind whether or not they’ve actually been convicted. So it would seem that this “request” for “voluntary surrender” might not be legal – as a violation of due process. Unless the gun owner has a federal conviction for their marijuana use.
Even so, who is going to fight it? Supposedly, this sort of prohibition on gun ownership (by users of “illegal” vegetation) is NOT a violation of the Second Amendment. To date, I’m unaware of any legal action to actually fight that claim.
So one more state gets a partial flush of the toilet concerning its people’s rights.
I guess Tojo was just 76 years too soon in attacking Hawai’i and not initiating an actual invasion and occupation. It is said that he decided not to, in response to the words attributed (perhaps wrongly) to Admiral Yamamoto: “You cannot invade the … United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.”
Mama’s Note: No, I don’t expect any outrage or resistance from the people of Hawaii. My sister has in-law relatives there, and they are all seriously socialist and anti-gun. They have tolerated me on occasion, but only barely.
This cannabis situation is rapidly changing, and we can only hope that true decriminalization of its use will come along soon. That’s the only thing which will truly break the terrible impasse for gun owners.
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Follower of Christ Jesus (a christian), Pahasapan (resident of the Black Hills), Westerner, Lover of Liberty, Free-Market Anarchist, Engineer, Army Officer, Husband, Father, Historian, Writer, Evangelist. Successor to Lady Susan (Mama Liberty) at TPOL.
2nd Amendment redux – another state!
By Nathan Barton
Just hours after posting my commentary on the Nazgul denying hearing cases in Florida (on open carry) and Maryland (prohibiting ownership of “assault weapons”), the State of Hawai’i demonstrated yet another massive threat to the freedom of its own people.
A cascade of letters was apparently sent to every person (via their local “Officer Friendly” jack-booted thug, like the one above from Honolulu PD). who is on both the state’s register of medical marijuana users AND the state’s register of gun-buyers. The State is telling those people that they have 30 days to VOLUNTARILY surrender (or transfer) their firearms, ammunition, and permit.
There is no explanation of what will happen if they do not “volunteer” to do so. Nor what will happen if the “transfer” is to another person in their household or family who is NOT on the MMJ list. Of course, such a transfer requires that the person gaining the weapon must be permitted (or have a registration) for that weapon. According to this website it requires at least fourteen days to get the permit. In the case of the above letter, dated the 13th of November, they have only until the 14th of December to transfer the weapon, which means that they better have gotten their application in by today, or they will have no way to transfer it. (Except to a holder of a long-arm permit, or a firearms dealer).
I’ve never been to Hawai’i and, frankly, had little desire to go even before this. In fact, were I willing to risk my “life, fortune, and sacred honor” to go assist American victims of tyranny, I probably now have a bit more desire to go.
Unfortunately, the majority of Hawai’ians have no one but themselves to blame for this. They are the ones who elected the officials who created this law, who failed to remove them from office (by impeachment or other means) when they did create this law, and who apparently (based on the lack of significant outcry in the last two weeks) are not that concerned about it.
This action is based on the statement by the Feds (BATFE) back in September 2011 that medical marijuana users are criminals, never mind whether or not they’ve actually been convicted. So it would seem that this “request” for “voluntary surrender” might not be legal – as a violation of due process. Unless the gun owner has a federal conviction for their marijuana use.
Even so, who is going to fight it? Supposedly, this sort of prohibition on gun ownership (by users of “illegal” vegetation) is NOT a violation of the Second Amendment. To date, I’m unaware of any legal action to actually fight that claim.
So one more state gets a partial flush of the toilet concerning its people’s rights.
I guess Tojo was just 76 years too soon in attacking Hawai’i and not initiating an actual invasion and occupation. It is said that he decided not to, in response to the words attributed (perhaps wrongly) to Admiral Yamamoto: “You cannot invade the … United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.”
Mama’s Note: No, I don’t expect any outrage or resistance from the people of Hawaii. My sister has in-law relatives there, and they are all seriously socialist and anti-gun. They have tolerated me on occasion, but only barely.
This cannabis situation is rapidly changing, and we can only hope that true decriminalization of its use will come along soon. That’s the only thing which will truly break the terrible impasse for gun owners.
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Follower of Christ Jesus (a christian), Pahasapan (resident of the Black Hills), Westerner, Lover of Liberty, Free-Market Anarchist, Engineer, Army Officer, Husband, Father, Historian, Writer, Evangelist. Successor to Lady Susan (Mama Liberty) at TPOL.